I honestly don't get it.  I just don't.  We've have same-sex marriages for a while now and lightning hasn't struck, people haven't turned to salt and society continues much the same save for more wedding dollars in the economy and more freedom for our people.  So yeah.  I just don't get it.

Julie Bo Boolie wrote:I honestly don't get it.  I just don't.  We've have same-sex marriages for a while now and lightning hasn't struck, people haven't turned to salt and society continues much the same save for more wedding dollars in the economy and more freedom for our people.  So yeah.  I just don't get it.

 

Because people in this country are being fed Bull$^&$ from their religious leaders and letting fear take over.
 
I am so so disgusted with my country right now and my heart breaks in two for those who truly love each other who are being denied equality.  may this end soon.

I think its very sad. Very very sad.

I think eventually you will see same sex marriage legal everywhere.  I'm fine with it (and I'm a conservative...go figure) as long as they aren't telling churches they have to marry gay people.  I think church and state should remain seperate and the state shouldn't be telling the church they have to marry people of the same sex, if it goes against their teachings.  I've been going to a baptist church for years and recently switched to Methodist.  I've never been taught anything about homosexuality.  I think some extreme churches out there do, but I've never seen it.  I think a lot of older people are against ssm because it goes against the tradition they know.  In 20 yrs as older people die off, I bet you'll see it legalized in most States.  JMO
Becky

After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

I don't know how people sleep at night, knowing they've willingly oppressed others for reasons that just make no sense.  Is there more to this law?  Is it an argument over semantics (ie civil unions ok... same-sex marriage not... etc)?

Disgusted that this country even allows it to be voted on.  Shame on Maine.

deborahdeborah wrote:After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

 
Where in ME do you vacation? I live in a vacation HOT SPOT.

Sad

deborahdeborah wrote:After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

 

while i certainly understand the sentiment behind this, i am curious.  do you object to the state, on the whole, because this was put on the ballot, or, because half of the citizens voted against it for whatever reason(s)?

I am very upset at this. Disgusting to put people's rights up for vote. Ugh.


At least the gay couples in Maine can go north/east to New Brunswick and get married there.

<julie> wrote:

After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

  
while i certainly understand the sentiment behind this, i am curious.  do you object to the state, on the whole, because this was put on the ballot, or, because half of the citizens voted against it for whatever reason(s)?

 

I realize these questions weren't directed at me, but if they were, my answer would be...BOTH.

rebeccla wrote:I think eventually you will see same sex marriage legal everywhere.  I'm fine with it (and I'm a conservative...go figure) as long as they aren't telling churches they have to marry gay people.  I think church and state should remain seperate and the state shouldn't be telling the church they have to marry people of the same sex, if it goes against their teachings.  I've been going to a baptist church for years and recently switched to Methodist.  I've never been taught anything about homosexuality.  I think some extreme churches out there do, but I've never seen it.  I think a lot of older people are against ssm because it goes against the tradition they know.  In 20 yrs as older people die off, I bet you'll see it legalized in most States.  JMO
Becky

 
Those of us to the left of center only want the church to remain separate from the state.  I don't think any of us would ever presume to believe that any religious institution (because you should know that church is a limiting word) should be told they have to marry anyone.  If you walked into my synagogue tomorrow and asked to be married they would say no, and well within their right.  Same would apply to same sex marriage.
 

I.Am.Who.I.am wrote:

rebeccla wrote:I think eventually you will see same sex marriage legal everywhere.  I'm fine with it (and I'm a conservative...go figure) as long as they aren't telling churches they have to marry gay people.  I think church and state should remain seperate and the state shouldn't be telling the church they have to marry people of the same sex, if it goes against their teachings.  I've been going to a baptist church for years and recently switched to Methodist.  I've never been taught anything about homosexuality.  I think some extreme churches out there do, but I've never seen it.  I think a lot of older people are against ssm because it goes against the tradition they know.  In 20 yrs as older people die off, I bet you'll see it legalized in most States.  JMO
Becky

 
Those of us to the left of center only want the church to remain separate from the state.  I don't think any of us would ever presume to believe that any religious institution (because you should know that church is a limiting word) should be told they have to marry anyone.  If you walked into my synagogue tomorrow and asked to be married they would say no, and well within their right.  Same would apply to same sex marriage.
 

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Then we both agree
Becky

How very sad   While visiting my ILs in Maine last month we talked about this very subject and I was so happy at the time but I did see in the paper that they were reconsidering it.  ugh....I should have known it was too good to be true.
-Kim

my.3.sons wrote:

After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

 
while i certainly understand the sentiment behind this, i am curious. do you object to the state, on the whole, because this was put on the ballot, or, because half of the citizens voted against it for whatever reason(s)?

 

I realize these questions weren't directed at me, but if they were, my answer would be...BOTH.

my reason for asking....
a vote in most states would show a similar divide.  maine doesn't have a lock on people conflicted over the issue of legally recognizing state marriages.  so that would rule out vacationing pretty much everywhere, if we were avoiding states where the public opinion is split.

on the other hand, if we were to avoid supporting the tourist economies of states that participate in gay marriage referendums, then maine should have been blacklisted prior to the vote (and perhaps for deborah it was - i don't know), and regardless of the outcome of the vote. 

but i suspect many gay-marriage supporters would be lauding maine today, had the outcome been different.  and in that respect i believe the average/typical gay-marriage supporter is inconsistent.

rebeccla wrote:I think eventually you will see same sex marriage legal everywhere.  I'm fine with it (and I'm a conservative...go figure) as long as they aren't telling churches they have to marry gay people.  I think church and state should remain seperate and the state shouldn't be telling the church they have to marry people of the same sex, if it goes against their teachings.  I've been going to a baptist church for years and recently switched to Methodist.  I've never been taught anything about homosexuality.  I think some extreme churches out there do, but I've never seen it.  I think a lot of older people are against ssm because it goes against the tradition they know.  In 20 yrs as older people die off, I bet you'll see it legalized in most States.  JMO
Becky

 
I think it should be legalized in all states now, but ITA with the bolded part.

<julie> wrote:

After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

  
while i certainly understand the sentiment behind this, i am curious. do you object to the state, on the whole, because this was put on the ballot, or, because half of the citizens voted against it for whatever reason(s)?

  

I realize these questions weren't directed at me, but if they were, my answer would be...BOTH.

 

my reason for asking....
a vote in most states would show a similar divide.  maine doesn't have a lock on people conflicted over the issue of legally recognizing state marriages.  so that would rule out vacationing pretty much everywhere, if we were avoiding states where the public opinion is split.
on the other hand, if we were to avoid supporting the tourist economies of states that participate in gay marriage referendums, then maine should have been blacklisted prior to the vote (and perhaps for deborah it was - i don't know), and regardless of the outcome of the vote. 
but i suspect many gay-marriage supporters would be lauding maine today, had the outcome been different.  and in that respect i believe the average/typical gay-marriage supporter is inconsistent.

Certainly you are welcome to your belief system.  There is a difference in my view between a state in which the gay marriage question never has been considered; a state where it has been in some way considered, and the resolution has been that there is gay marriage; and a state where it has been considered in some way, the resolution has been gay marriage, and the population has actively chosen to vote to reverse that.  When we vacation in Maine, some of the families that we hang out with are gay and lesbian headed.  It's shameful the message that the voters of Maine have just sent regarding their relationships.
 
For me, the decision about whether or not to return to our vacation community probably will turn on two things.  One, how did that county's votes go?  Early returns suggested that the county voted against the referendum, signaling to me that the community where I spend my time is supportive of gay marriage.  Second, how will our friends whom this affects (some of whom legally are married in other New England states) react?  Are they planning to continue to vacation there, or will they start summering elsewhere?

I am disgusted to be a Mainer today - shame on this state and shame on people for buying into the fear mongering and hatred!!!

deborahdeborah wrote:After ten years of spending our summer vacation in Maine, we're considering relocating.

 

I hear New Hampshire is nice. : )

that is really to bad
I don't understand how it could or would hurt anyone for this law to have passed.

Deborah been legal here since 2003  You'd be most welcome in Ontario!

That is just sad.

It is my opinion that same-sex marriage should not be up to the popular vote.  That just lets the majority deny basic rights to the minority.

spacecase76 wrote:That is just sad.
It is my opinion that same-sex marriage should not be up to the popular vote.  That just lets the majority deny basic rights to the minority.

 
ITA!
 
I've said it before, I cannot begin to understand how it is a voters right to decide if two people should be married. How holier than thou of them. Maybe their marriages should be voted on.